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Insane! Dylan, would you be up for talking about this/other china-adjacent chip topics on my podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/chinatalk/id1289062927?mt=2?

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Sure. I reached out via DM.

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China Talk has been indispensable since I started listening 2 years ago Jordan. Probably the greatest arch of events and information I’ll ever have the pleasure of learning in real time and I come from the Middle East! Keep it up, you’re doing great.

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aww thanks so much danny!

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It's ARM, not "Arm."

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They rebranded from ARM to arm/Arm a while ago. See their website and recent presentations

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Doesn't matter. That's stupid and shouldn't be honored. Nobody should call Red Camera "RED" either. It's not an acronym. "ARM" IS an acronym.

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Aug 28, 2021Liked by Dylan Patel

... again part of the rebranding they moved away from the acronym (given they sell more than Advanced RISC Machines)

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Tough.

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Arm wrestling?

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After their 2016 rebranding you will find it is not ARM but arm

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Thanks for your contribution. 🤦🏼‍♀️

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Amusing point of view. They wanted to go in China and created a new Chinese company because they didn't know how to go about it them selves. Then they didn't like how Chinese do business and made a mess of it trying to FIX it. Now they are crying "mommy help" because it doesn't work like west thinks it should.

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The investor, eyes wide open, has that expectation, that business will conducted fairly according to the laws of incorporation.

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What a story!

I wonder, is there anyway that ARM (softbank or nvidia) can block devices with chips from the new company to be sold in western world?

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No. Chinese suppliers are known to provide cheaper alternatives to western products at on-par quality, just in the case of Huawei, even surpassed the west from both costing and quality. So expect, this new chip supplier will do the same.

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That's not what he suggested. The US can ban them yes. Just like Huawei is banned. Remmember the CFO is still in canada under house arrest.

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Fake news...the real is that Chinese owns 51% of the stake in ARM China, you know what it means

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ARM used to be a British company. How the hell our government permitted it to be sold to a Chinese organisation is one of the mysteries of modern life.

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ARM used to be a British company. How our government permitted it to go to China is one of the mysteries of life.

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Arm China, 安谋科技, is asserting their independence. It is the most publicized instance of a joint venture in China going rogue

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I am obsessed with this story, and it’s another roadblock to the Nvidia deal.

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Agree, but it's also a silver lining for approval. If Nvidia agrees to look the other way and gives them Neoverse server IP + Armv9 with no strings attached then maybe China allows it. I'm sure it would be a one time transfer, with the US banning future ones, but anything to get the deal done. For that reason, I think the EU will be the toughest part and why I only give it 1/4 chance of success.

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I think 25% is optimistic. EU, UK, US, China. I can’t imagine all 4 saying yes to this, especially now with Lina Khan running the FTC

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