The hack contains sensitive info on future GPU configurations, source code for software, tester, simulation, and Verilog code.
This could be the most significant act of corporate espionage in a generation.
@dylan - If this is a nation state, and I would imagine its China if so, don't you think the demand makes sense in part because while the Verilog dump would be a huge huge boon, the open sourcing of the drivers would make that chip level data that much more useful for China trying to catch up quickly no?
China isAmerica's Official Enemy #2, yet no IP court on earth, nor TRIPS, has ever found Chinese theft of significant IP.
Remember, China leads the world in virtually all STEM areas, and in patents filed and patents implemented. It outspends the USA 3:1 in R&D, and is home to 300,000 people with IQs of 160+
I've written, filed, and defended patents and sued infringers.
The case you reference is not significant.
It's a standard trade secret/staff poaching action.
A hundred like this are filed every month in the US, and far more in China.
Our media like to jump on IP cases involving ethnic Chinese, but the facts do not support the fears their reports create. Read "Prosecuting Chinese 'Spies': An Empirical Analysis of the Economic Espionage Act", by Andrew Chongseh Kim* Cardozo Law Review, Volume 40 Issue 2.
CONCLUSIONS: This Study finds that Chinese and other Asian-Americans are disproportionately charged under the Economic Espionage Act, receive much longer sentences, and are significantly more likely to be innocent than defendants of other races. Although it is possible that Asian-Americans are prosecuted more often because they commit espionage more often, it is also possible that they are prosecuted more often because the DOJ has focused more resources to detect and punish spying related to Asian countries and defendants and so spends fewer resources investigating espionage conducted by defendants of other races. This Study also suggests that the DOJ is more likely to file charges prematurely, based on weak evidence, when the case involves an Asian-American defendant. Although some of these disparities may reflect legitimate concerns over the risk of flight, they may also reflect implicit biases with regard to the loyalty of Asian-Americans to the United States. In addition, this Article reveals that the traditional justifications for pretextual prosecutions generally do not apply to convictions of Asian-Americans originally suspected of espionage for false statements. Rather, these convictions harm the accountability of the DOJ, may serve to punish otherwise innocent minorities simply for being wrongfully profiled, and, ultimately, may force loyal Americans to refuse to cooperate with investigators for fear of being punished for false statements. By addressing racial biases and creating more transparent processes for charging and resolving espionage cases, however, we can reduce the number of innocent Americans charged with espionage and minimize the harm caused by these unfortunate cases.
Interesting read, if what you say is true this information is gold to whatever agencies. You should probably compile a complete document on the matter and help correct the system friend.
ya the claim is hilariously off the mark. There's countless examples, Dylan even mentioned one in the article of Huawei doing this. I'm happy to provide more @Godfree if you don't think the SMIC one is sufficient evidence of their blatant IP theft across numerous verticals.
@dylan - If this is a nation state, and I would imagine its China if so, don't you think the demand makes sense in part because while the Verilog dump would be a huge huge boon, the open sourcing of the drivers would make that chip level data that much more useful for China trying to catch up quickly no?
China?
China isAmerica's Official Enemy #2, yet no IP court on earth, nor TRIPS, has ever found Chinese theft of significant IP.
Remember, China leads the world in virtually all STEM areas, and in patents filed and patents implemented. It outspends the USA 3:1 in R&D, and is home to 300,000 people with IQs of 160+
you're kidding right? you're really trying to say China has never stolen IP? lol
If you doubt my claim, disprove it.
I don’t think it’s a good idea to waste time trying to argue about something like that. The fact that China steals intellectual property, especially in the semiconductor industry, is not up for debate. I would just say that if a reader is interested in an example he can look at the case of SMIC and TSMC: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-smic-lawsuit/california-jury-finds-smic-stole-trade-secrets-idUSTRE5A26CA20091103
I've written, filed, and defended patents and sued infringers.
The case you reference is not significant.
It's a standard trade secret/staff poaching action.
A hundred like this are filed every month in the US, and far more in China.
Our media like to jump on IP cases involving ethnic Chinese, but the facts do not support the fears their reports create. Read "Prosecuting Chinese 'Spies': An Empirical Analysis of the Economic Espionage Act", by Andrew Chongseh Kim* Cardozo Law Review, Volume 40 Issue 2.
CONCLUSIONS: This Study finds that Chinese and other Asian-Americans are disproportionately charged under the Economic Espionage Act, receive much longer sentences, and are significantly more likely to be innocent than defendants of other races. Although it is possible that Asian-Americans are prosecuted more often because they commit espionage more often, it is also possible that they are prosecuted more often because the DOJ has focused more resources to detect and punish spying related to Asian countries and defendants and so spends fewer resources investigating espionage conducted by defendants of other races. This Study also suggests that the DOJ is more likely to file charges prematurely, based on weak evidence, when the case involves an Asian-American defendant. Although some of these disparities may reflect legitimate concerns over the risk of flight, they may also reflect implicit biases with regard to the loyalty of Asian-Americans to the United States. In addition, this Article reveals that the traditional justifications for pretextual prosecutions generally do not apply to convictions of Asian-Americans originally suspected of espionage for false statements. Rather, these convictions harm the accountability of the DOJ, may serve to punish otherwise innocent minorities simply for being wrongfully profiled, and, ultimately, may force loyal Americans to refuse to cooperate with investigators for fear of being punished for false statements. By addressing racial biases and creating more transparent processes for charging and resolving espionage cases, however, we can reduce the number of innocent Americans charged with espionage and minimize the harm caused by these unfortunate cases.
http://cardozolawreview.com/prosecuting-chinese-spies-an-empirical-analysis-of-the-economic-espionage-act/
Interesting read, if what you say is true this information is gold to whatever agencies. You should probably compile a complete document on the matter and help correct the system friend.
I have spoken with authorities on the matter. The leader of this group was actually caught today. He's not even 18!
ya the claim is hilariously off the mark. There's countless examples, Dylan even mentioned one in the article of Huawei doing this. I'm happy to provide more @Godfree if you don't think the SMIC one is sufficient evidence of their blatant IP theft across numerous verticals.
See my response, above
Very strange no one on large forums like Hackernews and major hardware subreddits is talking about this
I've seen a lot on the specs and people theorizing performance, but not much on the important part. Ya.