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Sep 26, 2022Liked by Dylan Patel

“Moore’s Law is dead … It’s completely over.” The executive added the expectations of twice the performance for similar cost was “a thing of the past” for the industry." (Jensen Huang via Barrons)

What about Huang's law? loll

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huang%27s_law)

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that is hilarious, also someone should really update the wiki - or tell Huang to get back on script.

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Sep 23, 2022·edited Sep 23, 2022

I got a pile of money and a 2nd had 2080ti waiting for AMD in November.

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Some C level managers should just get a reality check that all this bloated pricing was due to mining. In 2013 i bought a GTX Titan at 765CHF. Since then, salaries have grown maybe 10%. GPU prices have grown 220%.

In september 2019 i bought an already overpriced because of mining 2080 Ti for the ludicrous price of 999CHF. Less than 3 year later they want to tell me that the normal 4080, not even Ti is priced at 1199?

I simply call it greed. In the dystopian capitalism we are living in today, they had a fantastic couple of years thanks to mining with amazing shareholders reports. They are just trying to somehow keep the same numbers....

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Mining was not a big deal in 2019...

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Mining was already a big deal in 2019 . So much that NVIDIA smelled it already and in fact the 1080 Ti msrp was 699, the 2080 ti msrp was 999. And at the time there was absolutely no shortage or any other fake reason to pump up the price. They went 699 to 999 or 142% from 10xx to 20xx and then another 999 msrp to 1199 msrp of 120% for 20xx to 30xx. Therefore from 1080 ti to 3080 ti they are short of doubling the price.

Just to give you an idea 980 ti msrp was 649, compared to 699 1080 ti, 780 ti msrp was 699, same ball park.

Transistor generational jump 780 ti = 7.1B, 1080 ti = 12B, 3080 ti = 28.3.

All comparable jumps, and if you go look at the pricing for the xx80 or xx70 you will lose that for a decade they pretty much stayed the same or followed inflation. Now two years of mining frenzy and the only incomparable thing is price jump.

Feel free to find a two gen jump that cause a 2x price tag in the last 15 years...

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Hash rates for major networks prove that incremental GPUs going to mining was tiny...

It was a big deal before, and a big deal after, but 2018 and 2019 ad almost no mining demand

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Hash rate more than doubled between mid 2017 and mid 2018 with the peak at the beginning of aug 2018, which caused Nvidia to price the September 2018 20xx release as it did.

Nevertheless let's put some nice numbers on a table, card, transistor count , msrp

GTX 680 - 3.54B - 499

GTX 780 - 7.1B - 649

GTX 980 - 5.2B - 549

GTX 1080 - 7.2B - 699

RTX 2080 - 13.6 - 699

RTX 3080 - 28.3 - 699

RTX 4080 - 45.9 - 1199

If we wanna keep saying that all is normal and an msrp jack up of 71% over Prev gen is normal, ok, let's do that.

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it was, Nvidia priced the cards in expectation of it. I also bought a 2080ti - but i knew it was overpriced and had spare cash.

i regretted months later it as i just fed the monster

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Just curious if you will update the article again, or if I have been mistaken by the recent reviews.

With the benchmarks for AD102 and N31 out, do you still consider the current dGPU generation as a cost disadvantage for Nvidia? BOM per Performance seems to be about equal for raster. BOM per Performance favours Nvidia on Raytracing.

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Just give me some amd goodness and I'm set. I dont want to overpay for a giant room heater and energy high from Nvidia. I just want a nice looking and card because I'm a fanboy and don't care even if it is 10 fps slower to it will be several hundred cheaper. That makes it ok. I'll pick the brand I like at a good price vs a brand I don't at an over priced gou just because it has 10fps more. 4k gaming is what I want. That's all. And = keep my pay :) Nvidia is a new GPU at an atrocious amount and a new PSU. Personally not ready to make that much of an investment for better graphics.

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Sep 28, 2022·edited Sep 28, 2022

average gamer. nothing wrong with that, smart in fact.

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